mitt romney is up on that. he's going back to what he has always billed as his strength and that's the economy. which he sees as the president's weakness. so it's like he's really blown this and here's what i would do. it's what attracted people to him in the first place. >> so is it more designed to you know, enthuse the base their respective bases out there? or to win over these independent still undecided voters? >> you know i think we're talking about such a small -- in large part both of them are stirring up their certain voters which includes their base. but the people are going to vote for them. there's some independent stuff in there of course. but mainly this is now you know, going forward on the premise that most people have made up their minds. that those swing voters are such a small group that, yes, we heard the stuff about and i'm going to work bipartisan, i'll have people in my office from the other party every week. that's swing vote independent talk. and you need those independents, both of the